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name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: ned zář 19, 2021 18:08
od panama
bonsoir à tous

could you say me the name of the mother of katarina TOMAN 1/11/1754 the last act of left page becausr i don t read the name Anna ?
thanks
cordialement
michel
https://ebadatelna.soapraha.cz/d/6369/37

Re: name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: ned zář 19, 2021 19:14
od Mistr Jan
Yes, the mother's name was Anna.

The text on the second row is as follows:
...otecz Waczlaw Toman sswecz, Matka Anna, poddani Kladenssti. Levans...
(...father Waczlaw Toman, shoemaker, mother Anna, underlings to Kladno. godparents...)

J.

Re: name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: ned zář 19, 2021 19:41
od panama
Bonsoir jan

i find the born act of brother of katarina the 26/12/1745 https://ebadatelna.soapraha.cz/d/6369/24 4 ieme act left page perhaps you can read the name of anna
thaks

Re: name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: ned zář 19, 2021 19:46
od Mistr Jan
panama píše:Bonsoir jan

i find the born act of brother of katarina the 26/12/1745 https://ebadatelna.soapraha.cz/d/6369/24 4 ieme act left page perhaps you can read the name of anna
thaks

Yes, that is Katarina's brother and the name of the mother is Anna, too.

Oh, and the godfather of both of the children was Martin Syržisstie. That was my ancestor.

Re: name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: ned zář 19, 2021 20:03
od panama
is there the family name of anna perhaps the goldfather is parents with TOMAN OR HIS WIFE

Re: name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: ned zář 19, 2021 20:21
od Mistr Jan
panama píše:is there the family name of anna perhaps the goldfather is parents with TOMAN OR HIS WIFE

No, unfortunately it can't be guaranteed. You need to find the wedding record to know Anna's birth name.
And sadly, I found no wedding record of Václav Toman in the Kladno parish...

However, I noticed that in the older sibling's record, the parents are written as "underlings to st. Markéta" (Margaretha) – NOT "to Kladno". So their wedding record could be probably found at the "St. Markéta manor". But I don't know, where this manor is located. :?

(Tedy, českým kolegům – u toho staršího sourozence jsou rodiče uvedeni jako poddaní svatomarkétští – ke sv. Markétě. Nevím, kde se toto panství nachází. Ale napadá mě, že by to mohlo být k benediktinskému Břevnovskému klášteru...)

Oh, and one more thing. I noticed there is the couple of Václav Hromada and Kateřina, daughter of Václav Marek among your ancestors. viewtopic.php?f=9&t=49444
Václav Marek was my ancestor as well. :-) That means we are relatives. This is what I managed to find: https://www.myheritage.cz/site-family-t ... ID=1500290

J.

Re: name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: ned zář 19, 2021 20:51
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IN FRENCH WHEN IT HAS THE SAME ANCESTOR IT SAY WHAT YOU ARE MY COUSIN YES VACLAV MAREK (SH) is my ancestor
le monde est petit
bonne soiree mon cousin
michel

Re: name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: čtv zář 23, 2021 15:32
od panama
bonjour à tous

where do you find the act of birth marriage 1730-1750 for the abbaye of Brevnov thanks

cordialement
michel

Re: name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: pát zář 24, 2021 16:38
od Mistr Jan
Hello, Michel,

you may find something here: http://www.ahmp.cz/page/docs/mat_vo_brv.pdf

J.

Re: name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: pát zář 24, 2021 21:16
od panama
bonsoir à tous
i has found the act of marriage of TOMANN Vaclaw x KAREL Anna the 17/7/1741 could you translate it s possible the same persons ,? thanks
cordialement
michel
http://katalog.ahmp.cz/pragapublica/Pag ... SASQipBQc- zoDzwTh2LAQ98Bd2mf8pVg1OZtj0-4NCQt3bXngA6ICGHhxiDjaZv65_wXo5iNDxwCxMFPXUeTCJImBxmI%3D&__fp=ODEjeVNFb2Hb4789-g3EwMeD-I6QP0NZOAhwsC4NNG9Be85zfPX1STMZWL62MgQQ

Re: name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: pát zář 24, 2021 21:33
od Mistr Jan
Michel, you need to click on the "PŘÍMÝ ODKAZ NA SKEN" button in the upper part. That is going to give you the permalink which you can send to us.
Unfortunately, just copying the link by Ctrl+C (as you did) won't work.
J.

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PříspěvekNapsal: pát zář 24, 2021 22:18
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PříspěvekNapsal: pát zář 24, 2021 22:49
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Re: name MOTHER katarina TOMAN

PříspěvekNapsal: sob zář 25, 2021 16:37
od Mistr Jan
Hello,
you sent only the index record, so I am sending the actual record from the book :-): http://katalog.ahmp.cz/pragapublica/per ... 58#scan258

But yes, it's probable it is the Václav you are looking for!
In the record, it is stated that Václav comes from Pysseli, (= Pyšely), which is southwest of Prague.
Anna was a daughter of Jan Václav (Joannes Wenceslaus) Karel, who was a potter (figulus) in Břevnov.

J.