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Ahoj,

I'm new in this forum, my name is Ingrid Schuster, I'm living in Vienna and I'm investigating my ancestors since 3 years.

The grandmother of my grandmother was born in Velké Meziříčí, Okres Žďár nad Sázavou, her name was Maria Dočkal.

Original (as fare as I found out) Dočkal came from Baliny, Okres Žďár nad Sázavou.

Unfortunatelly there are missing 5 years in Farnost Registry Velké Meziříčí 1708 - 1713,
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/proh ... ?strana=86
ends on October 1708


http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/proh ... ?strana=87
starts in September 1713

I'm sure the wedding I'm looking for is in that range

so may be I could find out more by studying the pozemková kniha of Baliny.

Does somebody know where they are kept? At Pracoviště Žďár nad Sázavou or at Pracoviště ve Velkém Meziříčí ?

Thank you for any help! předem děkuji!

pages are 170 and 171
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/proh ... ?strana=86

pages are 184 and 185
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/proh ... ?strana=87

missing 12 pages

Welcome to our forum
I agree with Ozana.

I personally would not give up
The page numbering in the upper corner jumps from 171 to 184. The very strange thing is that those two numbers are "on the same piece od paper".
I am usually very optimistic, what if they just made a bad scanning here? Would not it make sense to ask at ZMA Brno, if those pages are really missing?

I can not advice where Pozemková kniha of Baliny is, though.

Karolina

KOLEGOVÉ: Víte, zda Baliny a jejich pozemková kniha patří do Ždáru nebo do Vel. Meziříčí? Já se tam nevyznám- ale vypadá to, jako když Vel. Mez. je stejně ve Žďáru...

Pro Karolínu:
Špatně naskenované to asi není - v samotném popisu matriky je upozornění že ten kus chybí. Nemyslím si, že v tom strojkovém číslování nahoře je na jedné straně listu číslo 171 a a na druhé 183, neodpovídají tomu ani průsaky, strana 172 a 182 jsou evidentně nepopsané. Taky poslední zápis na 171 je vlastně jen torzo, jen jména, tak tam nějaký důvod k výpadku asi byl, je tam i časová díra mezi 184 a 185.
V tom meziprostoru zřejmě byly prázdné stránky tak je nesvázali (nebo jen nenaskenovali?). Tomu by odpovídalo i to další pomocné číslování ručně psané dole u hřbetu (56 -57).
Příslušné katastrální pracoviště pro Baliny je v Meziříčí, ale těžko říci, jak staré materiály tam archivují.

To Ingrid:
The relevant land registry office for Baliny is Velké Meziříčí, but it's hard to say how old material is being archived there. Just try and ask there, they should be able to tell you where to find records you are seeking for:
Katastrální úřad pro Vysočinu,
Katastrální pracoviště Velké Meziříčí
Třebíčská 1540/70
Velké Meziříčí
59401 Velké Meziříčí
e-mail: kp.velmezirici@cuzk.cz

Kam jsem to koukala? Do popisu jsem šla, ale neviděla jsem to tam....

To Ingrid: Věra is right- the pages are not missing- I apologise- I overlooked details.

Ahoj Ozana, Karolina and Vera,

many thanks for your answers. I already asked Acta publica/Moravsky zemsky archiv Brno and got following answer:

records for marriage 1711-1713 hasn´t been kept in Velke Mezirici.
Yours sincerely
Mgr. Lucie Krizova
Moravsky zemsky archiv Brno

What ever "hasn't been kept" means ....

I'll write to Katastrální pracoviště Velké Meziříčí!

dobrou noc!

"hasn't been kept" does mean that probably during that time there was no one to manage records. During that years our kingdom (as well as the rest of the Central Europe) underwent the last fatal outbreak of the plague epidemy, many parish offices remained unattended - priests very often became infected and died when provided extreme unction. So couples had to go for marriage to another church, or maybe church services were perfored irreularly by a substitute from another parish and records were not managed properly.

I understand - thank you for explaning